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The Avengers (2012)
Zia McCorgi by Cooner
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So yesterday I finally saw the Avengers movie.

My rough opinion was that it was a truly fun and enjoyable movie. I loved every moment of it and seeing the adventure. I couldn't stop smiling and enjoying myself and overall I found it a strong and amusing film. It is even more impressive on a technical stand point just because I don't think something like this was ever done before. Creating separate set up movies about individual characters then combining them into one movie. Each movie headed by different writers and directors. All starring some interesting actors as well. Trying to get some of these people to then combine in one film, give enough time to each one of these very different characters (the space/magic guy, the armor wearer, the socialist hero, the antihero monster, the super spy the sharp shooter and so on), to make people care who might not have seen the other films and tell a fun story with them? Sheer madness on paper.

Joss Whedon deserves a victory lap or twelve just for pulling this off. The fact that he pulled off a movie I actually want to see a second time in theaters is impressive as well. I have never wanted to do that.

At its heart Avengers is a character study. Something Joss Whedon has proved time and again he is very good at doing. The original comics were a bit of that as well. Getting very different people with different origins to work together for a larger goal despite very different methods, styles and personalities. Whedon though pulled it off extremely well. The movie spends a lot of time on character envelopment and interaction. the major story arc is actually a bit anemic (cosmic cube/mcguffin) but next to the characters and the world it doesn't need to be the strongest story.

I was actually a little surprised at the Agent Phil Coulson scene. Here is a character who has been in every one of the movies. A minor side character who people identify with as an every man despite being a secret agent. He's sensible, affable, personable and likable. Was he a plant by Whedon in all of these? Whatever the case he was used extremely well. His bit was cliche in part but he did the thing I always want characters to do in situations like that and he did it well. I was actually the most surprised at the feelings it evoked and it was truly affecting.

Nick Fury remains a manipulative bastard and he was written well that way. Loki sowing discord and confusion was expertly done and he came across the best as a villain manipulating everyone's foibles. This was Loki at his best and most threatening and it worked in a character interaction story very nicely.

Overall each character did reasonable things and I never found myself disagreeing or wondering why they did what they did. Black Widow as the superlative spy had a lot going on in this movie (the biggest danger for Avengers was that minor of sideline characters might get more attention while the big names who had full movies to developed would get sidelined). I liked her though and I felt she had a lot of good moments. She was used well for her skills and power set. She bordered on overuse thanks to Joss whedon's love of kick ass women in tight outfits but it worked out in the end.

The best bits that Whedon scored in my opinion was the Captain America and Ironman moments. They are probably the most different characters. Captain America is a member of the so called Greatest Generation. He's a soldier and a team builder/worker. He's centered around being a servant of ideals greater then himself and his country. Sacrifice and duty. Ironman is a generation Xer. He's bold and distrustful of authority. He builds himself and does what he feels is right especially if he can tweak authority figures. By all rights these two should not get along very well and their interactions in the movie portray this well. Captain America clearly finds Ironman distasteful within the first few moments of meeting him and Ironman clearly finds Captain America a yutz. The fact that they come together due to larger threats and their arguments over sacrifice and duty being a huge moment for the culmination of the movie are extremely well done and Whedon should take a bow just for that.

Also whoever was in costuming and did the Hawkeye costume deserves a medal. I love the concept of hawkeye but I have always hated his costume so this was a plus in my book.

The easter egg end scenes were fun as well and I enjoyed them. The final one was pure Whedon as he underscores the absurdity, humanity, and personality of these characters.


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Was he a plant by Whedon in all of these?

No, Whedon had nothing to do with the earlier movies.

He just chose the easiest character to kill off and did it. It's why I can't stand most of his work. He ALWAYS kills someone off for dramatic effect and it's getting REALLY OLD.

I agree with you most of the time on this sentiment. Wash was ridiculous to kill off for so many reasons. Here I was okay with it. I think it worked (for one thing he didn't go quietly he hit Loki hard with that cannon) but I also liked how the other characters were affected and in this case seemed to have some natural grieving which hasn't been done before.

I agree though most times it is overdone for Whedon.

From an interview with Whedon:

Joss Whedon: In our first meeting Kevin Feige said, this is what we're gonna do and I said, "Oh but you have to go out there and tell everybody that it was your idea because this is going to get me so much shit. Because they are all going to be like, "Oh he did it again!"

Joss has a well-deserved reputation. But this time, he is (allegedly) innocent. :)

As I said I'm willing to give him a pass as the death was actually affecting this time and it had a story purpose and that agent went down swinging. either way it worked ^.^

(anti-spoiler obfuscation-speak on)
This wuff is also rather amused that Stark's little "throw away" line, and the "cookie" at the end, caused a major Google "just what the heck is that anyway?" surge in searches. AND it's had significant economic effect on establishments offing the item. One place in LA reported an 80% increase in sales immediately following the movie's release! *grins*

Naturally, Vargr had to contribute to both. And now, having found out just what it is, wuffy has also found that we have supposedly a very good version of it for sale here in CO Springs. So this wuff is definitely going to take up Tony Stark's suggestion in the very near future!
(/Obfuscation mode)

oh my i might have to try the Colorado Springs version when I am next there ^.^

I didn't not hear that story but I am delighted that Stark has that reaction on people. RDjr certainly has a great deal of charisma

He kind of brought it on himself.

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